Apolitical Staples

It’s not a bluff, but they have the luxury of talking tough because they know the Bloc will prop up the Conservatives for the time being.

It’s a shame really, because a snap election on this issue could push the CPC into near majority territory. But I guess that’s why the Bloc won’t be voting them out any time soon, isn’t it?

Jean Charest is hinting at an election. Whenever Charest goes we can expect a Federal election soon after.

Just think of the polls ;) Quebec, then Ontario, the National - or whatever order you want but the next 12-18 months is going to feature a lot of election talk.

I love elections. They’re way more fun than politics.

Actually OC, Duceppe said the other day that if Harper backs out of the daycare deal with Quebec, it shows he is not serious about the fiscal imbalance and therefore is not to count on BQ support. I would like a nice summer election. It is much nicer to go to the polls when the birds are singing.

You rubes just don’t get it. A lot of people fought a long time to get a national daycare program and now that they have one they aren’t about to let a seat warmer PM cut and run from it. And it will only be a matter of time before the Bloc votes against Harper on something important.

“A lot of people fought a long time to get a national daycare program and now that they have one they aren’t about to let a seat warmer PM cut and run from it.”

Duh. What makes you reach the conclusion that we don’t get that. Well other than the fact that we do not have a National Program even now. And that Harper enacted an option to cancel the deal - that was written into the deal and that both sides had.

But seriously, it comes as no surprise that the entrenched interests are fighting against this. I agree with Socialist Greg, a summer election fought on daycare could be fun.

National Daycare program? What planet are you living on? This program is nothing but a fantasy. We don’t have it in our area and never will but I still pay for it.

We can only hope that the Opposition will be so stupid. I suspect their instinct for survival will kick in and they’ll find a way to back down from their threatened hissy fit.

I wonder if they’ll just keep bringing the government down again and again on this issue when election after election yields the same results.

Or is will this be the year the NDP finally breaks through for that long sought after majority?

Dependency and infantilization for all! And a chicken in every pot!

If Harper is brought down because he does not compromise on daycare, the issue will be his management style. Add this to emerson and shapiro and it could look bad for the boys and girls in blue.

Yeah baby! N-D-P! N-D-P!

Majority here we come!

Dependency and infantilization for all!

You know, that has a real ring to it.

I think I’m going to join the party.

No Greg. Prima facie, if the government falls on day care, the election will be on day care, not “management style” or any other flim flam made up issue.

So OC, you don’t think someone might ask why Mr. Harper tried to ram something through, even though he has a minority? If you believe that’s true you may as well believe in an NDP majority. :p

“A lot of people fought a long time to get a national daycare program and now that they have one they aren’t about to let a seat warmer PM cut and run from it.”

For every time they pounded more daycares in they pushed more parents away…. National is a lie,, nothing more than a lie!

Try researching it for years like we have, their plan is feminism not the children…

daycare can stay happily but national has to go….

Regardless of what happens the Liberal “daycare plan” is dead on arrival. Harper has already issued the cancellation notices to the provinces. Harper can then say to Canadians I want to give you $1,200. per month but the opposition will not support the budget therefore it is dead. Talk to the opposition. Well we will see who is in favour of the Conservative plan then. If the opposition defeats the gov’t over a so called non existent national daycare program it will not matter who the Liberals elect as their leader. It’s a Conservative majority all the way. So go on Graham and Layton you silly men bring on the election over this issue.

Someone might ask, but that won’t make the question the defining issue of any campaign. Only in the fantasies of frustrated socialists who are puzzled by Harper’s inability to see the True Way.

I expect him to push his agenda, just like Martin did with gay marriage. Compromise is not possible in this matter, as the two underpinning philosophies are not compatible in any way shape or form. The socialists want dependency and infantilization in the form of a universal state nanny. Conservatives don’t. Bring on the election. If your side wins, I’ll redouble my efforts to avoid paying taxes.

The Sun spoke to the issue in their editorial today and it all makes sense. However the media need to ask some questions about the Liberal daycare plan. -are provinces required to creates so many day care spaces. -do workers need to be bilingual -if unionized what happens to parents when they decide to go on strike -how much will it cost to send one child to one of these spaces…it ain’t free -will there be equal access for rural and urban parents -prove that your anaylsis shows that a $1 billion a year will create the spaces you said it would -what will be the hours i.e. 9-5, 5 days a week will not assist parents on parttime work. There are other questions that can be asked but I suspect the Liberals will say all these questions need to be answered by the provinces. How then is this a national daycare program. It is a patchwork of agreements where the provinces can use the money how they see fit. The Liberals should be careful what they wish for.

OC. You see, the thing about gay marriage, it got majority support in the house. The conservative tax cut disguised as daycare… probably won’t. I see what the problem is, you are confused by the whole minority/majority thing. That’s okay though, so is Mr. Harper.

And the Liberal plan is a massive transfer of wealth from rural and/or single income parents to urban (mostly) dual income parents disguised as a national program.

-are provinces required to creates so many day care spaces. No, they can spend this money on housing if they like as long as they call it childcare related…

-do workers need to be bilingual No, they don’t

-if unionized what happens to parents when they decide to go on strike Parents suffer…

-how much will it cost to send one child to one of these spaces… $10,000 per year and going up daily…

it ain’t free -will there be equal access for rural and urban parents No, they won’t fund rural. Ask the territories, they said no to daycare because they wouldn’t give them enough money to do it

-prove that your anaylsis shows that a $1 billion a year will create the spaces you said it would -what will be the hours i.e. 9-5, 5 days a week will not assist parents on parttime work

Millions go to the research group and the so called childcare advocacy groups,, not the children… they yell for raises before the funding of the spaces goes through

Any other questions?

Honestly those answers are true,,,

Socialist Greg:

I can count. So you’re saying whatever Harper can get enough votes for he should definitely push through, right? Or does that only count for your cherished “progressive” measures? If he can cobble together the votes for his child care tax rebate, you’re in favour of it right? Because he’d have a majority, and that’s all that counts. I guess we agree after all. Except that only one of us is pretending to know how a vote that hasn’t happened yet will turn out.

Yes, OC. I think Harper should have pushed his first four priorities and compromised on number 5. Instead he is pushing number 5 and risking one through four.

Oh well. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

if the childcare issue wasn’t so important then Harper would not of got it… why don’t people understand that. Parents know whats best for their kids, not the government…

Daycare will no disapear, just the daycare lobbyists that make millions off of the deal…

No voter wants to get rid of daycare, but at the same time not every voter needs a daycare on the street corner like a Tim Hortons!