Apolitical Staples

Appalling.

My solution? Buy a nice new Corolla. Built in Canada, fuel efficient, lasts forever.

Second solution, shitcan the union to drop the price of a new car so that Average Joe can scrap his ‘89 Buick and buy one!

I can hear the call-in shows now:

“If these laws and regulations save one child from getting asthma, wouldn’t that be worth it? Do you hate children Mr. McGuinty (or Mr. Hargrove)?”

Agreed. A stupid move, especially since I suspect the plan will be more talk than action. Typical Buzz.

But, but…

Have you seen the new Camaro?

It’s soooooo beautiful.

That said, will you support an approach to global warming, that puts the heaviest burden on the auto sector while leaving the oil sector basically untouched? That appears the direction this government is moving in. If they do move in that direction, it would seem that it is a middle finger to Ontario voters. “You care about climate change? “Bam”, you take the hit alone”. I hope I am wrong, but that is what looks like is going to happen.

This article makes it look like that is what is going to happen.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/532404.html

What do you think, Greg?

The main thing is to make sure that any regulations allow for export growth. For example CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Emissions) standards affect the average fuel consumed per car. Similarly, soft caps will affect the average amount of CO2 produced per barrel of oil. Both allow companies to produce more cars and oil respectively, as long as it is done efficiently. Imagine how Dalton would react if there were a regulation on the total fuel consumed by all cars produced in Ontario in a year. Remember, businesses should be targeted for efficiency, and consumers for total use.

I hate to say it but I think Greg—sinister Greg, that is—has it right. A lot of Albertans would love to impose an NEP on Ontario. And Stephen Harper doesn’t seem like a politician who let votes get in the way of his deep-seated antipathies.

What do I think? Political suicide if they try to make one Province pay all the burden. And I love the irony of McGuinty and Steve McKinnon talking about how Kyoto will cripple the economy - oh how the tables turn. I guess the best thing is the Liberal thing, spend gobs of money to look like your doing something but in the end do nothing.

“And Stephen Harper doesn’t seem like a politician who let votes get in the way of his deep-seated antipathies.”

Yeah. he probably didn’t think of this. Probably never occurred to him. Probably doesn’t even want to win the next election.

Shit, boys.

I kinda wonder if this was just smart politics by the CPC. They didn’t really announce anything concrete. But what they managed to do was to get one of the nation’s most powerful Liberals and the nation’s most ubiquitous union boss to expose their hypocrisy on the subject of greenhouse gas reduction.

I think most people know the horses left the barn on Kyoto and what-not. But these two markers are golden as smog.

My good Dr., either by accident or design I think you are right.

“Yeah. he probably didn’t think of this. Probably never occurred to him. Probably doesn’t even want to win the next election.

Shit, boys.”

Well, let’s see how far he can bring himself to go to get a majority. He can’t seem to let go of the gay marriage issue. He may be a lot smarter than his supporters, but he seems to dislike all the same things they do—despite his giant brain.

Well Ace, the irony is that there’s a pretty big laundry list of liberal hates too - starting with chistianity.

Personally, I haven’t figured out what I am. Agnostic? Atheist? A-religious? I don’t know. But I do know that I am not anti religeon nor particularly am I anti-christian. And I’m not so shallow as to dismiss the enormous contributions that religeon and Christianity have brought to mankind. Consequently, I’m not in a hurry to eschew religeon and many of its long-standing traditions in favour of the hip liberal state.

So if you want endorse gay marriage in defiance of christian values then god bless you.

But even though I’m not a card-carrying member of any religeon, I would never be so arrogant as to thumb my nose to their wisdom on matters where they’ve had over 2000 years of direct experience.

Sinister Greg has it wrong. They just revealed what everyone knows. Global Warming is always somebody else’s fault and their problem to fix. Quebec and Ontario think that screwing Alberta is the answer. Remember the Liberals specifically exempted the auto industry from any Kyoto requirements. Albertans justly say, “If you believe Kyoto will work, you should pay for it.”

Now two high profile Liberals are on the record saying they don’t want to experience any pain in falling about 95% short of meeting Kyoto targets. What would they do if we really tried to meet them and then Kyoto II targets?

The cold hard fact of the matter it is cheaper for Canada to keep doing what we’re doing and give the rest of the world financial help to deal with the consequences of Global Warming.

Sinister Greg has it wrong. They just revealed what everyone knows. Global Warming is always somebody else’s fault and their problem to fix. Quebec and Ontario think that screwing Alberta is the answer. Remember the Liberals specifically exempted the auto industry from any Kyoto requirements. Albertans justly say, “If you believe Kyoto will work, you should pay for it.”

Now two high profile Liberals are on the record saying they don’t want to experience any pain in falling about 95% short of meeting Kyoto targets. What would they do if we really tried to meet them and then Kyoto II targets?

The cold hard fact of the matter it is cheaper for Canada to keep doing what we’re doing and give the rest of the world financial help to deal with the consequences of Global Warming.

No, actually Plaid Shirt, I am saying it is everyone’s problem. I suspect though that your party is trying to turn this into a regional fight so they can throw up their hands in horror and say there is no workable solution to the problem. You will never get Buzz on side with this, but he is insignificant politically. If the governement was perceived as spreading the pain equally, across the economy, people would be upset, but at least it would be seen as a shared problem.

Well, if you actually believed in “greenhouse gasses”, you’d notice that oil and gas produce no such things until they are burned in cars. So, you’d understand why dealing with greenhouse gasses requires action against cars, not oil wells. You question tells us volumes about you and your cause, doesn’t it?

Of course, if it’s all just a fraud, why then, of course you can bestow your fraudulent labels any way you like. Alberta gasses cause global warming, Ontario gasses do not! Yay Ontario! And their shit doesn’t smell, either!

Ebt, we’re talking bitumen here. It don’t become oil without a lot of natural gas combustion.