Apolitical Staples

The NDP will not be deterred by impossibility!

Er, and mathematics and such.

And, um…

Very good then. As you were.

Hmmm. protocol…”a preliminary draft “..a correct code of conduct”…”the forms of ceremony and etiquette” Sounds all warm and fuzzy to me. No mention of meeting targets.

As we have both said for days, Greg. No deal.

Remember, it is not that we are saying 2+2 = 5, we are just saying that we are not 100% sure that 2 + 2 = 4, so we might as well keep trying to get it to equal 5.

Remember, it is not that we are saying 2+2 = 5, we are just saying that we are not 100% sure that 2 + 2 = 4, so we might as well keep trying to get it to equal 5.

No, you are saying 0+0= a viable green plan.

I think what we are seeing with the current MSM focus on both Dion and Layton trumpeting their commitment to The Environment, insisting on their singular focus, their desperate agenda of Saving Us From The Apocalpyse - it’s a political tactic.

The Liberals and NDP are in a battle for the electorate. The left in Canada has now split itself into four parties. The Liberals, NDP, Bloc and Green. All operate within the same themes. All are thematic rather than policy-driven; that is, they are all pure rhetoric with no pragmatic policies. That’s easy to do; you can blather on all you want in generalities without having to face economic, fiscal and operative responsibility.

All want the vote. Dion and Layton in particular are in quite a fight. The Liberals can only advance by taking votes away from the other left parties. The ‘blip’ in Liberal polls, now gone, was due to their taking votes from the NDP. The CPC percentage remained steady.

So- the only party with any accountable environmental policy is the CPC. The Liberals and NDP remain firmly floating as Cloud-Dwellers.

Layton’s commitment to that money laundering scam that is Kyoto is for the mass media and public - who still don’t ‘get it’ about Kyoto.

The problem for everyone except Dion is that most of the public may well want a green plan as a self-branding exercise, rather than as an actual implementable policy. If this is so, then the more the CPC talks about how impossible Kyoto is, the more the public will like it - because they will be more confident that Dion won’t actually implement it. The NDP loses either way, because most of the public will think they might just be crazy enough to actually try to meet Kyoto.

“Layton says any deal with the Conservatives to pass the Clean Air Act will have to include a commitment to the Kyoto Protocol. “

One word, I am dying to hear the media ask him.

Why?

The cult of Kyoto has to be demystified but not in one fell swoop. It must be done with finesse. PM Harper has already begun planting seeds of doubt with his statement that he can’t ask Canadians to heat their homes 1/3 less. Maybe tomorrow he’ll say he doesn’t know if Canadians will be able to cope with a law allowing only one vehicle per residence. Then next week he’ll contemplate whether they are willing to give up their jobs or their air-conditioning.

muttrus. I like your plan to show the faults in Kyoto. I think more can be done, along with your suggestions.

I think people have to understand that Kyoto is a money transference scheme. It has nothing to do with the environment. Kyoto says that a developed nation can pollute and emit excessive CO2. All it has to do to enable this, is pay a fine. BUT, BUT, instead of this fine being used within that country to rebuild industrial systems to emit less and pollute less - that money is sent out of the country!

It’s sent to an underdeveloped country which is exempt from Kyoto controls. This country can use it for whatever it wants. Theoretically, the country is supposed to use it to build ‘env’t friendly’ systems. In practice there are NO controls, NO sanctions. And the underdev’t country can use it to build cheaper and more, heavy polluting industries.

Result of Kyoto? MORE pollution, MORE emissions. Paid for by the taxpayers of the dev’t countries.

Now - if that’s not a scam - what is?

People have to be educated about this scam.

ET is right. Kyoto has nothing to do with the environment. This is why I would have favoured separating “climate change” from the Environment Ministry during the recent shuffle. By keeping “Kyoto” in the Environment Department, we allow the myth that “Kyoto” has something to do withe the environment persist. Personally I would make “climate change” the responsibility of a minister without portfolio, however, it might be better off in the Natural Resources Department or even Foreign Affairs, since it is an international treaty.

Harper needs to sever the false link between prudent and reasonable environmental action and Kyoto implementation.

He has a good start, by saying that: I won’t lie to the Canadian people. We will not meet the targets, no way, no how. He implies that if Dion says we can, then he is lying to Canadians.

muttrus is right. Little factoids about how ridiculous Kyoto is will come out day by day until the Canadian public gets it: it does nothing for the environment, and it costs too much for nothing in return.