Yes,
...Does a political party with 3% public support deserve a seat?
And Sheila Copps' idea of electoral reform is laughable to the extreme.
...France, for example, two votes are held to achieve a consensus. The first round eliminates all but the two major candidates. The second, a week later, is a runoff between the contenders, guaranteeing an outcome with majority public support.
Of course Ms Copps supports this, remember she was a key benifiary of the FPTP system that gave her party 51.5% of the seats with 38.5% of the popular vote. Could there be a better system for the Liberals to turn 38.5% of first ballot support instead into, I don't know, 75% of the seats than the two vote system. That is not reform, that's a bad joke.

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So, lets see now, if only 55% of eligible voters actually get out to vote and a party garners 3% of that , you’re saying, they should be given a seat in parliment…in a word…NO…! MMP won’t solve the problem of low voter turnout, but it will give small extremist parties a much louder presence than their numbers warrant. Electoral reform means nothing as long as politicians can continue to lie through their teeth, and steal taxpayers money, with impunity. Rather than change the way we vote to allow socialists more representation than they deserve, why don’t we demand more accountability, why not have REAL penalties for the actions some politicians live for. How about term limits, for all levels of government, there are too many carear politicians who are there for the perks and pay and couldn’t care less about actually solving anything. Real electoral reform should have the goal of increasing the voter turnout, if there was an 85% eligible voter turnout, doesn’t that solve the proportional aspect of elections, without giving small extremists parties seats they don’t deserve? MMP is a deliberate attempt to dilute the right wing vote, its not about fixing anything other than giving socialists more power. Power they can’t get the legitimate way using the FPTP version of democracy. …One person one vote… Vote NO to MMP or STV or whatever they are calling it today.
Posted by William | September 16, 2007 9:06 PM
Posted on September 16, 2007 21:06
Socialism IS an extremist viewpoint. It goes against human nature and is poison to the free market system. The NDP are the biggest supporters of PR… …can you say hidden agenda…!
Posted by William | September 16, 2007 9:44 PM
Posted on September 16, 2007 21:44
The NDP are the biggest supporters of PR… …can you say hidden agenda…!
Three things. First, if the NDP is open in its support, it isn’t a hidden agenda. We could only wish the Liberals and Conservatives were as open on the issue. Second, the NDP is the most logical proponent of reform since it is consistently hosed by the present one. Finally, I can think of no more extreme position than to advocate giving a party with 38% support, 70% of the seats in the legislature and 100% of the power. To me, that is the very definition of tyranny.
Posted by Greg | September 17, 2007 8:41 AM
Posted on September 17, 2007 08:41
MMP dilutes the right wing vote? What a laugh. Did you know that in 1993 that the PCs got more than 2 MILLION votes? And FPTP turned that into TWO Seats? They got more votes than the freaking Bloc which somehow ended up with 56 seats!! The Liberals for 13 long years took advantage of the ‘split’ right wing vote to get majority government with 40% of the vote or less regularly.
What kind of a crazy system do we have in which a vote for the PC party or the Reform party actually hurt the right wing? Why should a vote for a socially progressive fiscally conservative party HURT a fiscally conservative and socially conservative one? It is FPTP that crippled the right wing for more than a decade.
Vote for MMP in Ontario and let’s hope we can get this into the federal government so we can prevent Jean Cretien and his amazing 38% ‘majorities’.
Posted by AamirHussain | September 17, 2007 2:51 PM
Posted on September 17, 2007 14:51
That Quebeckers can elect so many Bloc MPs without having their preferences washed away by voters not living in Quebec should illustrate clearly enough why MMP should never see life federally in Canada. The same principle applies at every jurisdictional level.
Posted by lrC | September 18, 2007 11:30 AM
Posted on September 18, 2007 11:30